Here we go. August 2023 Legions Imperalis will be released. AT or AI scale, 8ish mm. This will be what the 5th version. Its not 40K no other races. This is Horus Heresy. Hot marine on marine action. The last one was 20 plus years ago, Armageddon. GW abandoned the Epic players within 6ish years, discontinuing the Armageddon support. Specialist Games went away. 40K was the future!
As with any system discontinued, players vanish and hardcore players only last for so long. This never occurred with Epic. I started playing when I was 11-12. And now I am dam near 50. Communities popped up. UK tourney scene never went away. The greater Boston group held numbers and monthly gaming ever since. The Aussies had a group.
In reality GW's ability to supply miniatures never mattered. There were so many set bought and left in the box, you could get new models 18 years later. The FW buildings were available for years. Only since about 2017 did they become increasingly rare to non-existent.
The loss of a minis created a golden age. There was Ben. He tried to buy Epic from GW, made copies of GW minis, and had some of the 1st 3D printed minis. Next came the age of Otterware. His stuff was amazing! Otter was C&Ded. The Aussies had China forge or fight club. 30K stuff beyond belief. They got C&Ded. The was a German guy who screwed you more than your wife would. He got banned serval times. Others have popped up.
Then printers became cheap as chips. My 1st printer was 3k. My last resin printer was 100 bucks. the files were hard to find. You would trade or buy them. Now they are everywhere. One dude count 567 30K files available for free. You can print anything GW ever came up with.
The new big box set. Its one Space Marine army with support or 1 Marine army and 1 human army. I don't know. 2 tactical squads, 1 assault squad, some termies, some dreads
(the only option that looks like a complete detachment), some armor.
All other editions came as a complete game. One side vs the other. Now its a box of a half assed army?
I believe its 40K or 30K platoon level skirmish. Where a stand of 5 is a dude in 30k. Epic was always big formation moving against each other to deny area or control ground. Nothing in the box set leads me to think this is a company or division level game. From the contents of the box. It is one company taking an objective.
Someone on FB quickly did sizing for all of us. I don't remember your handle, still credit to you! The new minis are 7ish mm with power pack. Termies are 8mm. (The termies look like shit. GW should have printed from our files)
I do not know what Legions will look like. I have not seen the rules or any game play. Net Epic Armageddon is solid, rules and lists. 30k for Armageddon is pretty good. Net Epic Gold has been around forever. Its solid. Imperious Dominatus is pretty good. Aussie 30k is pretty good.
Legions has to be fucking speculator! It has to convert the veteran players. It has to prevent new Legion players from going to any of the others. Legions has to take over an established tourney scene.
GW is a miniatures company
Is it about making money? Hell Yes
Are players going to get new minis? Yes
Will they fail to produce enough? YES
Will new players join the older Epic Communities? Yes
Will GW fuck up the rules? Yes
Will GW drop Legions like they did AI? Yes
Will GW fuck up the support like AT? Yes
In the end welcome to Epic. You will go broke. You will collect more minis than ever before. Weather you stick with Legions or join the existing players and tourney scene, you will play this game for your entire life!
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